Wisam Al-RawiWisam Al-Rawi
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I'm building several computers to use in my dental practice and I wanted something compact yet powerful for running dental imaging software, web browsing, YouTube and practice management software. My goal was not to build a high-end gaming rig. This computer is not for overclocking either. If you want a gaming rig go build one. If you need something that runs everyday work continue reading. Also, I'm AMD fan.BUILD SETUP:1. AMD Ryzen 3 3200G with Radeon Graphics APU (4 core CPU with Radeon Graphics). 65 W TDP and max temp 95 C. ($91.95).2. Gigabyte B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI (AMD Ryzen AM4/M.2 Thermal Guard with Onboard Wifi/HDMI/DP/USB 3.1 Gen 2/Mini ITX/Motherboard) ($141.12).3. Sabrent 256GB Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 Internal SSD High Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-256) ($46.99)4. Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz C16 Desktop Memory Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2B3200C16),Vengeance LPX Black ($73.99)5. Logitech MK270 Wireless Keyboard and Mouse Combo - Keyboard and Mouse Included, 2.4GHz Dropout-Free Connection, Long Battery Life (Frustration-Free Packaging) ($20.99)6. InWin Chopin SECC Mini-ITX Tower Case 150W Power Supply with 4 colors stickers inside, Black Aluminum ($90.34)7. 24" DisplayPROS:1. The case has an amazing build quality. It feels premium with the black aluminum material. High quality finish and sturdy.2. Small form factor. Quite portable.3. AMD Ryzen 3 3200G is quite powerful for everything you throw at it. The nice part is that it has a built-in Radeon GPU so you can use the motherboard display out to power your displays. It supports 4K. It has 2 HDMI and 1 Display Port!4. Sabrent NVME is incredible. Windows 10 boots in 10-12 sec! Price is unbelievable.5. Built-in WiFi AC with antenna and Bluetooth 5.0. I love motherboards that have those!6. The case comes with 150 PSU. AMD with Radeon is max at 65 W so you wont be running the PSU at max. No noise from PSU and the CPU cooler fan is silent under normal operation.CONS:The case wont fit the AMD Wraith Silent cooler, without a slight modification.SOLUTION:It won't fit unless you remove the top bracket. Yes, it can fit!! It took me some time to figure it out and I wanted to share this with everyone. The stock AMD Wraith Silent cooler fits this case after you remove the top bracket from the fan. See pictures and video attached. The benefit is that you don't have to buy a separate cooler. I found that Noctua $39.90 is way too much to spend so that pushed me to figure out a solution.Plus the AMD cooler is bigger and since the fan is so close to the side panel. It will force air out of the case through the mesh.EXPERIENCE:Motherboard:The Gigabyte motherboard is incredible. The UEFI BIOS is graphics with mouse support. It came with latest BIOS revision 50 out of the box. Good job Gigabyte! (Hint: if you want to upgrade your BIOS do not do it from Windows. Always do it from the BIOS menu so no bricks). Windows 10 had no issues installing or running. All drivers installed without a problem. Radeon drivers worked out of the box. Also Miracast works on this APU with drivers 20.xx. I was able to wireless cast HDMI to a Anycast dongle and mirror my desktop.Boot time is 10-12 seconds! If your display is on standby and you push the power button by the time the monitor wakes up you're at Windows login screen. Unbelievable speed! WiFi and BT are great and coupled with 16 GB of RAM the GPU takes 2 GB and the rest is dedicated to Windows. Performance is great. It also supports Windows secure boot and other gems. Everything is so smooth.CPU Heat:Under idle conditions, the CPU temperature is around 28 C. With load you probably hit 40-50 C. I did not do extensive testing. Remember this is APU based on Zen+ architecture so it's not a 7nm APU. Hopefully, we get newer Zen 2 APUs from AMD. I love AMD !Overclocking:I do not do overclocking. My goal is usually to reduce power consumption if possible and have a quite system. The default AMD boost is way more than enough for my needs. I hate when people trash companies and motherboard because of VRM and such. If you want to overclock get a higher end and more expensive motherboard but let us enjoy those gems like the Gigabyte B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI.NOISE:Not so much. See the video. PSU does not make sound either. I tested it by unplugging the CPU fan to see. In fact that this case comes with PSU at this price is so cool. I wish more companies offer that.PERFORMANCE:If you need a computer that does everyday work you wont be disappointed. This setup is quite light and has AMD technologies. Thank you In Win Chopin for this wonderful case!
Matthew
Great budget APU. Or it was until the parts shortage. But since everything went up across the board, I guess that means it is technically still a bargain at twice the price.After playing around with the iGpu and being impressed with the overclocking headroom, I installed an MSI GTX 1650 D6 Gaming X. This is a great pairing. I have run this card with a Ryzen 5 2600 and get only around 25% CPU utilization. That can be detrimental to game performance because you are not running anywhere near peak efficiency for high performance applications. Core speed stays low and latency goes up. The 2600 and the 3200 G share the same architecture and have the same per thread performance. But I actually got better performance in CP 2077 with the 3200 than the 2600 with this card just simply because the CPU stayed above 90% utilization. But framerates were very stable because I have well matched components.And since FS 2020 and CP 2077 both have next gen requirements but still only need 4 threads, that means the 3200G will be fine for middle of the road gaming performance for a few years yet.I am running the CPU at 4.1 GHz and 1.4V.It was technically stable at 4.4 and 1.4375 but kept crashing due to temp spikes triggering the temp limiter. I am using the stock cooler but when I get a better cooler, I will be running at 4.4 or 4.5.Eventually, in a couple of years, I can sell the card and keep using the APU in a media and retro gaming PC.The downside is that when it comes to the latest GPUs, the 3200 is limited. You might get solid performance out of a non OC reference 3060 Ti but that is probably the limit before you start bottlenecking.
Xg
I did my last build in 2012 and thought it was about time I upgraded one of my home desktops that is used principally for internet browsing, watching Amazon Prime and paying the bills online. I don't have the least interest in 'gaming' (aka sitting on one's butt for hours or days at a time).I chose this processor mainly for the price. It has 4 processor cores and can run 4 threads 'simultaneously'. This is more than enough processing power for the uses mentioned above.Another significant reason was that it has integrated graphics. This means that you don't have to buy a separate graphics card for your build which is at least a saving of %150.It comes with a heat sink which is more than adequate to cool the processor. I have two other fans in my computer case and (so far) I have never seen my PC running hotter than 47 C. Of course, I am not doing any heavy video editing or anything else that makes CPU usage go up to 100% on all cores.Please note that this processor uses an AMD AM4 socket. Remember this when choosing your motherboard!The performance on most of the applications listed above is great. Windows 10 boots up in just a few seconds. (Of course, this is partly due to using NVMe storage. I highly recommend this at least for installing your operating system. If you wish to install this storage, make sure your motherboard has at least 1 M2 socket and that the dimensions of the storage stick are consistent with the interface on your motherboard).If you're looking to a budget build, this processor is great choice.